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A MESSAGE FROM Both HOUSES of PARLIAMENT VNTO His MAJESTIE, Concerning the PRINCE His SON. With the ANSWER of his Majeſtie thereunto.

Together with His Majeſties Anſwer to the deſire of both Houſes concerning the MILITIA.

LONDON: Printed for JOHN TOMPSON. 1641.

A Meſſage from both Houſes of Parliament unto his Majeſtie, concerning the Prince, His SON.

THe Lords and Commons in Par­liament humbly deſire His Maje­ſtie, That the Prince may not be removed from Hampton Court; And that for theſe enſuing Reaſons.

I. They conceive his Maieſtie had Reſolved that the Prince ſhould ſtay at Hampton Court untill his Ma­jeſties Return.

II. That the Lord Marqueſſe Hertford, appointed by his Maieſtie to be Governour of the Prince, and approved of, and commanded by the Parliament to give his perſonall attendance on the Prince, Is now ſo indiſpoſed in his health, that he is not able to at­tend the Prince to any other place.

III. That the Prince his Removall at this time from Hampton Court, may be a cauſe to promote Iealou­ſies and Fears in the hearts of his Maieſties good Subiects, which they conceive very neceſſary to avoid.

Die Jovis 24. Febr. 1641.

ORdered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, that the Lord Howard of Char ſhall attend upon the King, and preſent theſe Reaſons unto his Majeſtie.

Io. Browne Cler. Parliament.

His Majeſties Anſwer to the Reaſons Hee Received by way of Meſſage from both Houſes concerning the PRINCE his SON.

THat His Majeſty intended at his remove from Hampton Court with His Royall Conſort the Queen, towards Dover, That the Prince His Son ſhould ſtay at Hampton-Court, till His Majeſty returned to ſome of His Houſes: and thereupon as ſoon as His Majeſty reſolved upon a certain day to be at Greenwich, He commanded that his Son ſhould attend him there, which was no way contrary to his former Intention.

2. That His Majeſty was very ſorry to hear of the In­diſpoſition of the Marqueſſe Hertford, being the Perſon up­on whom He principally relies for the Care of his deareſt Son; But if that indiſpoſition ſhould have laſted, His Maje­ſty could no wayes think fit, that his want of health ſhould have hindred the Prince from waiting upon His Majeſty, according to His Command, and therefore would have bin much offended if the Prince had failed of meeting His Ma­jeſty, according to his appointment.

3. To the Fears and Jealouſies, His Majeſty knowes not what Anſwer to give, not being able to imagine from what grounds they proceed. But if any Information have bin given to that purpoſe, His Maieſty much deſires that the ſame may be examined to the bottome, and then Hee hopes that theſe Fears and Iealouſies will be hereafter continued onely with Reverence to His Majeſties Rights and Honour.

His Majeſties Anſwer to both Houſes, con­ning the Militia.

HIS Majeſty having with his beſt care and underſtanding peruſed and conſidered that which was ſent him from both Houſes for the Ordering of the Militia, preſented unto him to be made an Ordinance of Parliament, by the giving of his Royall aſſent; as he can by no means doe it, for the Reaſons hereafter mentioned, ſo hee doth not conceive himſelf oblieged by any promiſe made in His Anſwer of the ſecond of this month, to the Pe­tition to both Houſes to yeeld to the ſame.

His Majeſty finds great cauſe to except againſt the Preface or Introduction to that Order, which confeſſeth a moſt dangerous and deſperate Deſigne upon the Houſe of Commons, of late, ſuppoſed to be an effect of the bloudy Counſels of Papiſts, and o­ther ill-affected perſons; by which many may un­derſtand (looking upon other printed papers to that purpoſe) his comming in Perſon to the Houſe of Commons, on the fourth day of Ianuary, which be­got ſo unhappy a miſunderſtanding between Him and His People: And for that, though He beleeves it, upon the Information ſince given Him, to bee an apparent breach of their Priviledge, and hath offe­red, and is ready to repair the ſame for the future, by any Act ſhall be deſired of His Majeſty; Yet Hee muſt declare and require to be beleeved, That Hee had no other Deſign upon that Houſe or any Mem­ber of it, then to require (as He did) the perſons of thoſe five Gentlemen His Majeſty had the day be­fore accuſed of High Treaſon.

And to declare, that hee meant to proceed againſt them legally, and ſpeedily; upon which He beleeved that Houſe would have delivered them up: And his Majeſty cals the Almighty God to witneſſe, that He was ſo far from any intention or thought of force or violence, although that Houſe had not delivered them according to his Demand, or in any Caſe what ſoever, That hee gave thoſe his Servants and others (who then waited on his Majeſty) expreſſe Charge and Command, that they ſhould give no offence to any Man; Nay if they received any provocation or injury, that they ſhould bear it without Return. And his Majeſty neither ſaw or knew that any perſon of his Train had any other weapons, but his Penſioners and Guard, thoſe with which they uſually attend His Perſon to Parliament, and the other Gentlemen Swords, And therefore his Majeſty doubts not, but his Parliament will bee ſo regardfull of his honour herein, that he ſhall not undergo any imputation by the raſh or indiſcreet expreſſions of any young men then in his Train, or by any deſperate words uttered by others, who might mingle with them without his confent or approbation.

For the perſons nominated to bee Lieutenants of the ſeverall Counties of England and Wales, his Ma­jeſty is contented to allow that Recommendation, onely concerning the City of London, and ſuch other Corporations, as by ancient Charters have granted unto them the power of the Militia, his Majeſty doth not conceive that it can ſtand with Iuſtice or Policy to alter their Government in that particular: And His Maieſtie is willing forthwith to grant every of them (that of London and thoſe other Corporations excepted) ſuch Commiſſions as He hath done this Parliament to ſome Lord Lieutenants by your ad­vice. But if that power be not thought enough, but that more ſhall be thought fit to be granted to theſe perſons named, then by the Law is in the Crown it ſelf, his Majeſty holds it reaſonable, that the ſame be by ſome law firſt veſted in him, with power to tranſ­fer it to theſe perſons which he will willingly doe; And what ever that power ſhall be, to avoid all fu­ture doubts and queſtions, his Majeſty deſires it may be digeſled into an Act of Parliament rather then an Ordinance, ſo that all his loving Subjects may thereby particularly know, both what they are to do and what they are to ſuffer for their neglect, that there bee the leaſt Latitude for his good Subjects to ſuffer under any arbitrary power whatſoever.

As to the time deſired for the continuance of the powers to be granted, His Maieſty giveth this An­ſwer, That hee cannot conſent to deveſt himſelf of the juſt power which God and the laws of this King­dome have placed in him for the defence of his peo­ple, and to put it into the hands of others for any in­definite time. And ſince the ground of this requeſt from his Parliament was to ſecure their peſent fears and jealouſies, that they might with ſafety apply themſelves to the matter of his Meſſage of the 20 of Ian. His Maieſty hopeth that his grace to them ſince that time in yeelding to ſo many of their deſires, and in agreeing to the perſons recommended to him by his Parliament, and the power before expreſſed to be placed in them, will wholly diſpell thoſe Fears and Iealouſies, and aſſureth them that as his Maieſtie hath now applied this unlawfull remedie to their doubts, ſo (if there ſhall be cauſe) He will continue the ſame to ſuch time as ſhall be agreeable to the ſame care He now expreſſeth towards them.

And in this Anſwer, his Maieſtie is ſo far from receding from any thing He promiſed, or intended to grant in His Anſwer to the former Petition, that His Maieſtie hath hereby conſented to all was then asked of Him by that Petition concerning the Mili­tia of the Kingdome (except that of London, and thoſe other Corporations) which was to put the ſame into the hands of ſuch perſons as ſhould be re­commended unto Him by both Houſes of Parlia­ment: And his Majeſtie doubts not, but the Parlia­ment, upon well weighing the particulars of this His Anſwer, will finde the ſame more ſatisfactorie to their ends, and the peace and welfare of all His good Subiects, then the way propoſed by this intended Ordinance, to which, for theſe Reaſons, His Maie­ſtie cannot conſent.

And whereas his Maieſtie obſerves by the Peti­tion of both Houſes, preſented unto him by the Earl of Portland, Sir Thomas Heal, and Sir William Savile, That in ſome places, ſome perſons begin already to intermeddle of themſelves with the Militia, His Maieſtie expecteth that His Parliament ſhould exa­mine the particulars thereof, it being a matter of high Concernment, and very great Conſequence.

And his Maieſtie requireth, that if it ſhall appear to His Parliament, that any perſons whatſoever have preſumed to command the Militia without lawfull Authority, they may be proceeded againſt according to Law.

FINIS.

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TextA message from both houses of Parliament vnto His Majestie, concerning the prince, his son. With the answer of His Majestie thereunto. : Together with His Majesties answer to the desire of both houses concerning the militia.
AuthorEngland and Wales. Parliament..
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Bibliographic informationA message from both houses of Parliament vnto His Majestie, concerning the prince, his son. With the answer of His Majestie thereunto. : Together with His Majesties answer to the desire of both houses concerning the militia. England and Wales. Parliament., Browne, John, ca. 1608-1691., England and Wales. Sovereign (1625-1649 : Charles I). [8] p. Printed for John Tompson.,London: :1641 [i.e. 1642]. (P. [3] dated and signed: Die Jovis 24. Febr. 1641 ... Io. Browne cler. Parliament.) (Reproduction of original in the British Library.)
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  • Charles -- II, -- King of England, 1630-1685.
  • Great Britain -- Militia.
  • Great Britain -- History -- Charles I, 1625-1649.

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